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Collecting content for LLM dataset – Part 3 – Thamizh_Mann books, project madurai, WikiSource

We are collecting open licensed dataset in tamil language, to build LLM, and other interesting applications in the coming days.

The ML models we build may have very short lifespan, but the open data will be there forever or at least for longer time than our life time.

Check the efforts part 1 and part 2 here.

part 1 – https://goinggnu.wordpress.com/2024/06/11/collecting-content-for-llm-dataset-part-1-tamil-wikipedia-content/

part 2 – https://goinggnu.wordpress.com/2024/06/16/collecting-content-for-llm-dataset-part-2-freetamilebooks/

here goes part 3.

Thamizh_mann publishers are publishing the public domain and nationalized tamil books for many years. Few years ago, with a collaboration with the Library at University of Toronto, Scarborough, Canada, and Thamizh_mann publishers, the kaniyam foundation team helped to release all the 1000+ tamil books as PDF and Docx formats for free online.

You can download them all here https://tamil.digital.utsc.utoronto.ca/61220/utsc35335

Thanks to UTSC, Thamizh_mann team for the great gift for the tamil Diaspora.

Now, we have 1000+ books in Unicode Docx format. Next is to convert them all as PlainText and use them. Natkeeran and Parathan helped on this.

Along with this, they helped to scrap project madurai books and tamil WikiSource books. They published all in a git repo here – https://github.com/KaniyamFoundation/open_tamil_texts along with the scripts and metadata.

I am adding those text in our open licensed tamil data collection.

Download them all here https://kaniyam.cloudns.nz/tamil_datasets/

here is the current size in text format and compressed format.

shrini@dell-optiplex-9100 v/w/h/tamil_datasets> du -h compressed
258M compressed/

shrini@dell-optiplex-9100 v/w/h/tamil_datasets> du -h text-files
355M text-files/project_madurai/data/text
355M text-files/project_madurai/data
355M text-files/project_madurai
110M text-files/tamil_wikisource/data
110M text-files/tamil_wikisource
374M text-files/FreeTamilEbooks-txt
714M text-files/thamizh_mann/data
716M text-files/thamizh_mann
1.6G text-files/

We have 1.6 G of text data to work on LLM or other works.

Go ahead, use it and build more models and tools using this data.

Hope this may not enough to get any good output. But, if we can bring something out of this, even though they are not good, then we can ask people to release their recent contents, blogs, social media posts in creative commons license.

There are few bloggers, magazines are already released their content in CC license. Now, we need your help to scarp them. If you know any programming language and can help for this project, please do webscrapping for the websites mentioned here. share the data and code.

https://github.com/KaniyamFoundation/ProjectIdeas/issues/198

Thanks for all the content providers and the contributors.

Collecting content for LLM dataset – Part 3 – Thamizh_Mann books, project madurai, WikiSource

We are collecting open licensed dataset in tamil language, to build LLM, and other interesting applications in the coming days.

The ML models we build may have very short lifespan, but the open data will be there forever or at least for longer time than our life time.

Check the efforts part 1 and part 2 here.

part 1 – https://goinggnu.wordpress.com/2024/06/11/collecting-content-for-llm-dataset-part-1-tamil-wikipedia-content/

part 2 – https://goinggnu.wordpress.com/2024/06/16/collecting-content-for-llm-dataset-part-2-freetamilebooks/

here goes part 3.

Thamizh_mann publishers are publishing the public domain and nationalized tamil books for many years. Few years ago, with a collaboration with the Library at University of Toronto, Scarborough, Canada, and Thamizh_mann publishers, the kaniyam foundation team helped to release all the 1000+ tamil books as PDF and Docx formats for free online.

You can download them all here https://tamil.digital.utsc.utoronto.ca/61220/utsc35335

Thanks to UTSC, Thamizh_mann team for the great gift for the tamil Diaspora.

Now, we have 1000+ books in Unicode Docx format. Next is to convert them all as PlainText and use them. Natkeeran and Parathan helped on this.

Along with this, they helped to scrap project madurai books and tamil WikiSource books. They published all in a git repo here – https://github.com/KaniyamFoundation/open_tamil_texts along with the scripts and metadata.

I am adding those text in our open licensed tamil data collection.

Download them all here https://kaniyam.cloudns.nz/tamil_datasets/

here is the current size in text format and compressed format.

shrini@dell-optiplex-9100 v/w/h/tamil_datasets> du -h compressed
258M compressed/

shrini@dell-optiplex-9100 v/w/h/tamil_datasets> du -h text-files
355M text-files/project_madurai/data/text
355M text-files/project_madurai/data
355M text-files/project_madurai
110M text-files/tamil_wikisource/data
110M text-files/tamil_wikisource
374M text-files/FreeTamilEbooks-txt
714M text-files/thamizh_mann/data
716M text-files/thamizh_mann
1.6G text-files/

We have 1.6 G of text data to work on LLM or other works.

Go ahead, use it and build more models and tools using this data.

Hope this may not enough to get any good output. But, if we can bring something out of this, even though they are not good, then we can ask people to release their recent contents, blogs, social media posts in creative commons license.

There are few bloggers, magazines are already released their content in CC license. Now, we need your help to scarp them. If you know any programming language and can help for this project, please do webscrapping for the websites mentioned here. share the data and code.

https://github.com/KaniyamFoundation/ProjectIdeas/issues/198

Thanks for all the content providers and the contributors.

Introduction to PostgreSQL database – free online course in Tamil

Introduction to PostgreSQL database – free online course in Tamil

Monday, wednesday, Friday IST evening.

First class – 18-Nov-2024 7-8 PM IST

Syllabus: https://parottasalna.com/postgres-database-syllabus/

Trainer – Syed Jafer – contact.syedjafer@gmail.com

Get the meeting link here

Telegram Group – https://t.me/parottasalna
Whatsapp channel- https://whatsapp.com/channel/0029Vavu8mF2v1IpaPd9np0s Kaniyam Tech events Calendar – https://kaniyam.com/events/

Introduction to PostgreSQL database – free online course in Tamil

Introduction to PostgreSQL database – free online course in Tamil

Monday, wednesday, Friday IST evening.

First class – 18-Nov-2024 7-8 PM IST

Syllabus: https://parottasalna.com/postgres-database-syllabus/

Trainer – Syed Jafer – contact.syedjafer@gmail.com

Get the meeting link here

Telegram Group – https://t.me/parottasalna
Whatsapp channel- https://whatsapp.com/channel/0029Vavu8mF2v1IpaPd9np0s Kaniyam Tech events Calendar – https://kaniyam.com/events/

kanchilug – Monthly Meeting – Nov 10, 2024

Hi everyone,
KanchiLUG’s Monthly meet is scheduled as online meeting this week on Sunday, Nov 10, 2024 17:00 – 18:00 IST

Meeting link : https://meet.jit.si/KanchiLugMonthlyMeet

Can join with any browser or JitSi android app.
All the Discussions are in Tamil.

Talk Details

Talk 0:
Topic : Postgres Architecture
Description : In this talk, we will explore the architecture of postgres Duration : 30 mins
Name : Sethupandian
About : My name is Sethu and I work as a practice manager for an Insurance company in Canada. Back in India, I am from Salem. Completed my engineering in Electrical & Electronics, at Kongu Engineering College(2000-2004). Started my IT career in the year 2005 and worked in companies like Ramco Systems, Verizon, TCS, Cognizant before joining my current employer. I have always got an interest towards learning things that is fascinating. And through Payilagam and Muthu sir, I came to know about Kaniyam and KanchiLUG. I am happy to be part of this great initiative. I wish and hope I can contribute whatever possible from my side.

Talk 1:
Topic : Intro to GDB
Description : Based on my recent translation of Beej’s guide to Tamil on same. Duration : 20 mins
Name : Annamalai N
About : a GNU/Linux user interested in Embedded Systems. Final year engineering undergrad.

After Talks : Q&A, General discussion

About KanchiLUG : Kanchi Linux Users Group [ KanchiLUG ] has been spreading awareness on Free/Open Source Software (F/OSS) in
Kanchipuram since November 2006.

Anyone can join! (Entry is free)
Everyone is welcome
Feel free to share this to your friends

kanchilug – Monthly Meeting – Nov 10, 2024

Hi everyone,
KanchiLUG’s Monthly meet is scheduled as online meeting this week on Sunday, Nov 10, 2024 17:00 – 18:00 IST

Meeting link : https://meet.jit.si/KanchiLugMonthlyMeet

Can join with any browser or JitSi android app.
All the Discussions are in Tamil.

Talk Details

Talk 0:
Topic : Postgres Architecture
Description : In this talk, we will explore the architecture of postgres Duration : 30 mins
Name : Sethupandian
About : My name is Sethu and I work as a practice manager for an Insurance company in Canada. Back in India, I am from Salem. Completed my engineering in Electrical & Electronics, at Kongu Engineering College(2000-2004). Started my IT career in the year 2005 and worked in companies like Ramco Systems, Verizon, TCS, Cognizant before joining my current employer. I have always got an interest towards learning things that is fascinating. And through Payilagam and Muthu sir, I came to know about Kaniyam and KanchiLUG. I am happy to be part of this great initiative. I wish and hope I can contribute whatever possible from my side.

Talk 1:
Topic : Intro to GDB
Description : Based on my recent translation of Beej’s guide to Tamil on same. Duration : 20 mins
Name : Annamalai N
About : a GNU/Linux user interested in Embedded Systems. Final year engineering undergrad.

After Talks : Q&A, General discussion

About KanchiLUG : Kanchi Linux Users Group [ KanchiLUG ] has been spreading awareness on Free/Open Source Software (F/OSS) in
Kanchipuram since November 2006.

Anyone can join! (Entry is free)
Everyone is welcome
Feel free to share this to your friends

Weekly Notes 44 – 2024

  • For the past few months, I was preparing for an English Exam called CELPIP. It is an exam to check the Listening, Reading, Writing and Speaking. Though we know English, preparing for an exam is an exhausting one. We took online training from “Galaxy Training Academy“. https://galaxytraining.in The coach “Jay Kumar” gave nice intro about exam pattern. He gave many mock tests and gave good feedback on how to improve, on each test. Last month, Nithya and I cleared the exam. It is a good feel to released from exam fear. Postponed many activities because of the exam preparation. Will roll out them all soon. If you are preparing for any English Exam, I suggest taking training and mock tests with “Galaxy Training Academy”.

    ——

  • In Canada, Daylight saving ended yesterday. This happens every year in fall season and referred as “Fallback”. The clocks are moved one hour back. This is to adjust the dark winter season. It seems like all in a sudden, we got one hour extra to sleep in morning. 🙂

    ——

  • On Oct 31, we had Deepavali, Halloween and our Marriage day. Deepavali day went with great remembering our childhood memories. The evening was filled with fun, as we went to neighbourhood houses, with friends and kids, to play “Trick or Treat”. Saw many weird, spooky decorated houses and people. Kids collected a bag full of chocolates. Last year, it was too cold. This year, the same day had a nice weather, to roam around in the evening.

    ——

  • On Nov 1, we celebrated Deepavali with firing crackers. Bought a few crackers, which emit light. Here, we don’t get loud-full crackers like atom bombs, 1000 piece fireworks shots etc. With limited available crackers, kids enjoyed firing them, with all their friends together.

    ——

  • On Nov 8, we are planning for a mega Deepavali event with around 250 people here. I am contributing on the planning/photography. Nithya and kids are practicing dance with their friends. Hope it will be a fun-filled evening.


    ——

  • On Nov 2, gave a talk on tolkappiyam Canada monthly meeting, about our efforts on writing python code for tamil grammar rules in Tolkappiyam book. It was a good meeting. Few of the participants accepted to collaborate. You can read our progress here – https://github.com/KaniyamFoundation/ProjectIdeas/issues/214


    ——

  • Few weeks ago, gave a talk on open-tamil python library, at Kanchi Linux Users Group ( KanchiLUG) meet. Video is here – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtIrbvw2V-w


    ——

  • Kids started going to tamil school on every Saturday morning. This week, they received books. Viyan is good at Tamil and English. Iyal started to read Tamil and English. Paari is trying to learn writing.

    ——

  • We conduct daily meetings in a text based chat system called IRC (Internet Relay Chat). daily, 7-8 pm IST. Good to see many people are joining and discussing many things about open source software and mentoring to contribute to open source software. More details here – https://goinggnu.wordpress.com/2024/10/21/open-source-projects-mentoring-via-irc/

    ——

  • Practicing Manual mode in photography for few weeks. Feeling like learning linux and Emacs. It gives the most flexible options and results are stunning. It is better to learn it in early days, so that we can do more magics with lighting.


    ——


    The one thing I follow in photography is – shoot a lot, share a little. I keep and share only 10%. All others are deleted. Though it is hard to select the best photos, sharing only 10% is easy for viewers and brings a Wow from them.


    ——
  • Completed reading books in last week.
  • currently reading these books.

Weekly Notes 44 – 2024

  • For the past few months, I was preparing for an English Exam called CELPIP. It is an exam to check the Listening, Reading, Writing and Speaking. Though we know English, preparing for an exam is an exhausting one. We took online training from “Galaxy Training Academy“. https://galaxytraining.in The coach “Jay Kumar” gave nice intro about exam pattern. He gave many mock tests and gave good feedback on how to improve, on each test. Last month, Nithya and I cleared the exam. It is a good feel to released from exam fear. Postponed many activities because of the exam preparation. Will roll out them all soon. If you are preparing for any English Exam, I suggest taking training and mock tests with “Galaxy Training Academy”.

    ——

  • In Canada, Daylight saving ended yesterday. This happens every year in fall season and referred as “Fallback”. The clocks are moved one hour back. This is to adjust the dark winter season. It seems like all in a sudden, we got one hour extra to sleep in morning. 🙂

    ——

  • On Oct 31, we had Deepavali, Halloween and our Marriage day. Deepavali day went with great remembering our childhood memories. The evening was filled with fun, as we went to neighbourhood houses, with friends and kids, to play “Trick or Treat”. Saw many weird, spooky decorated houses and people. Kids collected a bag full of chocolates. Last year, it was too cold. This year, the same day had a nice weather, to roam around in the evening.

    ——

  • On Nov 1, we celebrated Deepavali with firing crackers. Bought a few crackers, which emit light. Here, we don’t get loud-full crackers like atom bombs, 1000 piece fireworks shots etc. With limited available crackers, kids enjoyed firing them, with all their friends together.

    ——

  • On Nov 8, we are planning for a mega Deepavali event with around 250 people here. I am contributing on the planning/photography. Nithya and kids are practicing dance with their friends. Hope it will be a fun-filled evening.


    ——

  • On Nov 2, gave a talk on tolkappiyam Canada monthly meeting, about our efforts on writing python code for tamil grammar rules in Tolkappiyam book. It was a good meeting. Few of the participants accepted to collaborate. You can read our progress here – https://github.com/KaniyamFoundation/ProjectIdeas/issues/214


    ——

  • Few weeks ago, gave a talk on open-tamil python library, at Kanchi Linux Users Group ( KanchiLUG) meet. Video is here – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtIrbvw2V-w


    ——

  • Kids started going to tamil school on every Saturday morning. This week, they received books. Viyan is good at Tamil and English. Iyal started to read Tamil and English. Paari is trying to learn writing.

    ——

  • We conduct daily meetings in a text based chat system called IRC (Internet Relay Chat). daily, 7-8 pm IST. Good to see many people are joining and discussing many things about open source software and mentoring to contribute to open source software. More details here – https://goinggnu.wordpress.com/2024/10/21/open-source-projects-mentoring-via-irc/

    ——

  • Practicing Manual mode in photography for few weeks. Feeling like learning linux and Emacs. It gives the most flexible options and results are stunning. It is better to learn it in early days, so that we can do more magics with lighting.


    ——


    The one thing I follow in photography is – shoot a lot, share a little. I keep and share only 10%. All others are deleted. Though it is hard to select the best photos, sharing only 10% is easy for viewers and brings a Wow from them.


    ——
  • Completed reading books in last week.
  • currently reading these books.

Open Source projects mentoring via IRC

In the programming world, if you say as ‘ I prefer watching videos, than reading docs’ it means you are a programmer already or you won’t become a programmer.

Do you feel that you are struggling to be a good programmer, even after watching 100s of hours of videos?

Let me share one secret. It is the fear of reading and writing PlainText. The more you go away from reading and writing, programming will go away from you.

Programming is all about dealing with the code, error messages, log files, documentation. All in PlainText. We have emails, tickets, docs, reports too there on the stack of IT life.

If you love terminal and PlainText tools, you are already into reading and writing. The more you read and write, the more you can get clarity in thinking, which is the essential part of programming.

To embrace the simplicity and powers of PlainText, few friends started to discuss in IRC. yes, the same 40+ years old Internet Relay Chat, an chat system which built the internet itself via chat.

Thanks to Indian Linux Users Group, Chennai, KanchiLUG, Kaniyam Foundation friends for joining the chat.

Read my post on why I like IRC here https://goinggnu.wordpress.com/2020/04/14/why-i-like-irc-internet-relay-chat-even-in-2020/

Here is small video in Tamil by my friend Muthuramalingam of Payilagam – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGurYNb0BM8

From today, 7-8 IST evenings, we can discuss at channel at irc.libera.chat

I suggest a terminal based chat client “weechat”

But, for a quick connection, use this link to join and discuss. https://web.libera.chat/gamja/#kaniyam

Start Date – 21 Oct 2024 ( Monday to Friday )
Time – 7-8 pm IST
server – irc.libera.chat
channel –

read the chat logs here – https://ircbot.comm-central.org:8080/kaniyam

join and say something about you.

  • feel like a hacker by chatting with people in your linux terminal
  • get mentored on hactoberfest
  • ask any questions on linux/python/programming/devops
  • share your daily progress on learning and programming
  • practice reading and writing PlainText
  • learn slowly and strongly

See you at IRC.

If you are interested in mentoring students for open source projects, please join and start the discussions.

The other interesting channels that people chat are #ubuntu  you can join there and participate on the discussions anytime.

Open Source projects mentoring via IRC

In the programming world, if you say as ‘ I prefer watching videos, than reading docs’ it means you are a programmer already or you won’t become a programmer.

Do you feel that you are struggling to be a good programmer, even after watching 100s of hours of videos?

Let me share one secret. It is the fear of reading and writing PlainText. The more you go away from reading and writing, programming will go away from you.

Programming is all about dealing with the code, error messages, log files, documentation. All in PlainText. We have emails, tickets, docs, reports too there on the stack of IT life.

If you love terminal and PlainText tools, you are already into reading and writing. The more you read and write, the more you can get clarity in thinking, which is the essential part of programming.

To embrace the simplicity and powers of PlainText, few friends started to discuss in IRC. yes, the same 40+ years old Internet Relay Chat, an chat system which built the internet itself via chat.

Thanks to Indian Linux Users Group, Chennai, KanchiLUG, Kaniyam Foundation friends for joining the chat.

Read my post on why I like IRC here https://goinggnu.wordpress.com/2020/04/14/why-i-like-irc-internet-relay-chat-even-in-2020/

Here is small video in Tamil by my friend Muthuramalingam of Payilagam – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGurYNb0BM8

From today, 7-8 IST evenings, we can discuss at #kaniyam channel at irc.libera.chat

I suggest a terminal based chat client “weechat”

But, for a quick connection, use this link to join and discuss. https://web.libera.chat/gamja/#kaniyam

Start Date – 21 Oct 2024 ( Monday to Friday )
Time – 7-8 pm IST
server – irc.libera.chat
channel – #kaniyam

read the chat logs here – https://ircbot.comm-central.org:8080/kaniyam

join and say something about you.

  • feel like a hacker by chatting with people in your linux terminal
  • get mentored on hactoberfest
  • ask any questions on linux/python/programming/devops
  • share your daily progress on learning and programming
  • practice reading and writing PlainText
  • learn slowly and strongly

See you at IRC.

If you are interested in mentoring students for open source projects, please join and start the discussions.

The other interesting channels that people chat are #ilugc #dgplug #emacs #kde #ubuntu  you can join there and participate on the discussions anytime.

kanchilug Weekly Discussion – Oct 20 2024

Hi everyone,
This week in KanchiLUG we have scheduled an weekly discussion as online meeting on Sunday, Oct 20, 2024 17:00 – 18:00 IST

Meeting link : https://meet.jit.si/KanchiLugWeeklyDiscussion

We also hava talk scheduled as well

Talk Details:
Talk 0:
Topic: Introduction to open-tamil python library
Duration: 30 mins
Speaker: Shrinivasan T
About speaker: A Linux Lover. Editor of free software magazine in Tamil http://kaniyam.com
Ebooks Publisher at http://FreeTamilEbooks.com
Founder – Kaniyam Foundation

Weekly discussion is an open and friendly discussion where topics related to Linux/FOSS technologies will be discussed. We will meet in the online jitsi meeting and discuss new linux things everyone explored this week and we chat about linux news and topics. If you are facing any issues with linux or any FOSS applications, you can also share your issues during the discussion. Our KanchiLUG community will help to debug or suggest some good alternatives.

Can join with any browser or JitSi android app.
All the Discussions are in Tamil.

About KanchiLUG : Kanchi Linux Users Group [ KanchiLUG ] has been spreading awareness on Free/Open Source Software (F/OSS) in Kanchipuram since November 2006.

Anyone can join! (Entry is free)
Everyone is welcome
Feel free to share this to your friends

Why I like IRC – Internet Relay Chat – even in 2020?

IRC – Internet Relay Chat – is a text based chat program. The 2k kids may compare this to slack, telegram chat, whatapp chat or any other instant messaging.

IRC was created by Jarkko Oikarinen in August 1988. Wow. Too old, Right?

Why it is not famous nowadays? People are telling that there are many cons compared to modern instant messaging.

These cons are real Pros of IRC. They are not bugs. They are the intended features.

Are you hearing the word IRC for the first time? Here is a quick beginners guide

https://www.whoishostingthis.com/resources/irc-primer/

IRC is only Text Based Chat.

Yes. You can not add any image or video. Few servers accept file uploads. Still Text is the only preferred way of communication in IRC. Why?

  • Plain Text is the God of content, always.
  • It is searchable.
  • Anyone can read faster
  • Watching a one hour video will talk one hour time. Reading its transcription will take quarter of its time.
  • On server side maintenance, it will be great headache to keep on adding the storage to keep all the images, files, videos. Ask the admins, who manages RocketChat, Mattermost, Mastodon Instances. They will tell the pains of keep on increasing the hard disk spaces. The IRC server admins will live a peacefull life and can keep the history for decades.
  • If you can not explain anything on text, even videos wont help for many.

IRC is not keeping the history of chats

IRC simulates the realtime chatroom like a meeting room. If you are late to a meeting room, you miss the spoken things. You can read minutes and know what was spoken.

Similarly, IRC is only realtime chat. You can not read the previous chats like you do in telegram like instant messengers. Even in modern we dont read all the history of chats. Imagine, in a morning, a chat room having 200 unread message. What do you do? Just skip all the messages and mark them read. Thats life. IRC knew this 30 ago.

What If I want history?

As all the interaction is happening as plain text, anyone can share the chat history online as blogpost, pastebin or github gist. Ask any fellow mates to export them and read in leisure.

That’s too much work for me to ask for a chat history

Well. There are bots and bots and bots for IRC. Check for any logging bot and add to your channel. Host the bot yourself or use this bot.   https://ircbot.comm-central.org:8080/  Add this bot to your channel and read all the chatlog on their website.

Who are using IRC still?

Most of the Free/Open Source software are having IRC Channels to provide free support. You can interact with the original developers of the software there. Anyone can create a channel, invite friends, hangout and have fun there.

Rules, Rules, Rules

It seems there are few rules to chat in IRC Channels. It depends on each channel. To maintain  goodness, there are rules everywhere. Even in Roads, to avoid accidents, we have to follow rules. There are mailing list rules. Similarly, there are common IRC Rules. Read here for common IRC meeting Rules https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_use_IRC#Meeting_Protocol

There are many commands to learn

Yes. As everything is via only text, we have to give few commands to use the IRC. There are no “Join/Mute/Leave/Kick” buttons. They are just commands. Check your instant messenger GUI. You will be clicking so many buttons to interact. They are the original commands here.

I have to remember people by there NickName. Why cant we connect with their phone number?

Welcome to the world of Privacy. By giving all your contact’s phone numbers to your instant messenger like WhatsApp, you are selling all our privacy. Do you get frequent SPAM phone calls from all banks,credit cards? We did not get these on IRC times. IRC keeps all your privacy. You dont have to reveal your name, sex, country.

What if I want to chat with someone instantly? He is not there in the IRC Channel? In instant messenger, I leave him a message, on next day, he will see and reply.

IRC respects your offline life. You dont need to be online 24/7. IRC is like going to office and being in a meeting room. Are you in meeting room or a tea shop gang or friends gathering 24/7 ? How are you connecting with them when they are not around? Yes. You make calls or send a message. You choose another medium to connect with them and wait. Do the same here. If you have some query. Posted in IRC. No one replies or the persons who can reply are not there in the Channel. Then ask the same on respective mailing list or stackoverflow like forums. Check the IRC logs next day, you might got answers. You can quickly search over text to get your conversations.

If someone is not there online, it seems he is enjoying life in realtime. Let them enjoy it. Ask for their available time and interact only on that time.

Meet.Jit.si, BigBlueButton,Zoom, Skype, Facebook Live, YouTube Live are useful to meet people, discuss and for any training. Can we do the same on IRC?

Yes. We can do all the things in IRC too. There are tons and tons of training happening over IRC. DPGLug is conducting Training on Free Software from 2009 on every summer. You can read all the logs here https://dgplug.org/irclogs/

We had monthly IRC meetings on Tamil Computing around 2015. You can read all the logs here  https://tamilirc.wordpress.com/

Anyone can read/skim these logs quickly. If I share a youtube channel or podcasts full of 100s of hours of content, how long will you watch? It depends on the need. The same applies for IRC also. But it easy and quick to read text.

Can I use IRC on the go with Mobile?

Yes. There are many mobile clients. IRCCloud’s web client and mobile client are modern and neat. I use their free plan. There are tons of clients available for all OS. Explore and find your lovable pair, yourself.

What if I want to read all the history?

You can setup IRC bouncer software like ZNC, or connect with a matrix channel or pay for IRCCloud.com like services. https://thelounge.chat/ seems a better self hostable IRC web client. Install it in a server or raspberry pi. If you want to be away from propitiatory software, for which you are the product, you have to host yourself or pay to some service providers. Or simply enable a free logging bot and read from their website.

I can talk faster than typing.

But people can read faster than hearing or seeing any video. If you want to reach more people, type the content in IRC or a blog post.

What about Matrix/Riot?

Matrix/Riot.im seems a upgraded IRC with all the bells and whistles of other instant messengers. They can be connected with IRC using bots. To and Fro both way communications are seamless. But it allows multimedia content, exporting all the content for public view is still tough, high maintenance tasks for server admins.

Want to discuss with 1000s of people same time? Use IRC

All the modern video chat services, YouTube, Facebook Live sessions take high bandwidth. Not everyone on the world have the bandwidth to connect with a video chat. Most of the video calls are spending time with “Am I audible? Do you see my screen? I can not see the screen. Stop the Noice” etc like discussions.

We dont have a 100s of people participating free video call service yet. You have to pay a lot for Zoom like services, just to hear the above voices and see blur faces of participants.

Instead, call for a meeting over IRC. Follow few meeting guidelines and all the meeting is done with low noise. Even anyone can connect with 2G or below bandwidth network.

Ok.Ok.Ok Stop this marketing for IRC

Few final thoughts.

  1. IRC server is self hostable. irc.libera.chat, irc.oftc.net are few major free servers available to create a channel
  2. Respect other people’s time. Video calls take all the participants time. Text chats are quick and respecting time.
  3. Text chat is very minimalist. Enjoy the peacefulness of a IRC meeting.
  4. Not all trainings need a video chat. If something is really important to demonstrate as a video, record a screencast, upload online and ask all to watch.
  5. Text is great way to learn things. Remember, we still use text books, tutorials, documentation, wikipedia to learn many things. Videos can help only as supporting materials.

I will be available at #ilugc and #kaniyam at irc.libera.chat on weekdays on daytimes.

I will plan for few text based training on any free software and announce here soon.

Thanks to ShakthiKannan, Mohan of Indian Linux Users Group, Chennai and Kushal of DGPLug for inspiring me on using IRC.

Add your comments or experience with IRC here.

kanchilug Weekly Discussion – Oct 20 2024

Hi everyone,
This week in KanchiLUG we have scheduled an weekly discussion as online meeting on Sunday, Oct 20, 2024 17:00 – 18:00 IST

Meeting link : https://meet.jit.si/KanchiLugWeeklyDiscussion

We also hava talk scheduled as well

Talk Details:
Talk 0:
Topic: Introduction to open-tamil python library
Duration: 30 mins
Speaker: Shrinivasan T
About speaker: A Linux Lover. Editor of free software magazine in Tamil http://kaniyam.com
Ebooks Publisher at http://FreeTamilEbooks.com
Founder – Kaniyam Foundation

Weekly discussion is an open and friendly discussion where topics related to Linux/FOSS technologies will be discussed. We will meet in the online jitsi meeting and discuss new linux things everyone explored this week and we chat about linux news and topics. If you are facing any issues with linux or any FOSS applications, you can also share your issues during the discussion. Our KanchiLUG community will help to debug or suggest some good alternatives.

Can join with any browser or JitSi android app.
All the Discussions are in Tamil.

About KanchiLUG : Kanchi Linux Users Group [ KanchiLUG ] has been spreading awareness on Free/Open Source Software (F/OSS) in Kanchipuram since November 2006.

Anyone can join! (Entry is free)
Everyone is welcome
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Hacktoberfest 2024

Hacktoberfest 2024 is just around the corner, and I hope you’re as excited as I am for this month-long celebration of all things open-source!

If you’re looking for beginner-friendly open-source projects to contribute to, we’ve got you covered. The Kaniyam Foundation Team has compiled a list of project ideas that you can take on and make your own. A special thanks to KanchiLug volunteer Syed Jaffer for putting together this list of projects to work on. Check it out at the link below:

https://forums.tamillinuxcommunity.org/t/hacktoberfest-2024-project-lists/

If you need any open source project to be developed, share your project idea in detail here.
https://github.com/KaniyamFoundation/ProjectIdeas/issues

Register here – https://hacktoberfest.com/

#Hacktoberfest #Hacktoberfest2024

Chennaipy – September meetup

Hi Everyone,

Welcome to the September month meetup.

# Schedule

* AI in Digital marketing
* Novice with Metaprogramming — Decorates with Decorator
* Best practices in optimizing large scale data processing using pandas-like libraries
* Transforming Automotive Electronics Testing with Python and Robot Framework * Lightning Talks (10 mins/talk)

# Venue

Zilogic Systems
Development Centre I
2nd Floor, Ragula Tech Park,
Type II/16, Dr. VSI Estate (Phase 1),
Thiruvanmiyur,
Chennai – 600 041.

Maps: https://maps.app.goo.gl/S1ndF1EzHdTLz2or6

* RSVP to get the meeting link
https://www.meetup.com/chennaipy/events/303192601

# Date & Time

* 28/09/2024
* 3:00 PM to 5:00 PM

# New to Python ?

* Learn Python in 30 minutes
https://learnxinyminutes.com/docs/python/

* How to think like a computer
Scientist?

http://openbookproject.net/thinkcs/python/english3e/

Chennaipy mailing list
Chennaipy@python.org
https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chennaipy

Hacktoberfest 2024

Hacktoberfest 2024 is just around the corner, and I hope you’re as excited as I am for this month-long celebration of all things open-source!

If you’re looking for beginner-friendly open-source projects to contribute to, we’ve got you covered. The Kaniyam Foundation Team has compiled a list of project ideas that you can take on and make your own. A special thanks to KanchiLug volunteer Syed Jaffer for putting together this list of projects to work on. Check it out at the link below:

https://forums.tamillinuxcommunity.org/t/hacktoberfest-2024-project-lists/

If you need any open source project to be developed, share your project idea in detail here.
https://github.com/KaniyamFoundation/ProjectIdeas/issues

Register here – https://hacktoberfest.com/

#Hacktoberfest #Hacktoberfest2024

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